Writers Andy Nyman and Jeremy Dyson tell Quays Life about their shared love of horror, giving audiences a trick and a treat, and keeping the secrets of spooky stage hit Ghost Stories.
Supernatural stage scarefest Ghost Stories is something of a modern The Mousetrap. Stick with me. Iâm not suggesting Agatha Christieâs classic murder mystery has moments of ghoulish terror that would make you leap, petrified from your seat, but if it did you probably wouldnât know about them because, despite having run for the best part of seven decades, no-one spills the beans on its record-breaking secrets.
Ghost Stories is exactly the same. Despite having premiered a decade ago and been adapted as a film, the secrets that make it such an unusual and successful show have remained elusive, well-guarded as they are by both its creative team and audiences.
âSecrets are precious,â explains the showâs co-creator Andy Nyman. âIf you give people a secret that they really enjoy and you ask them nicely to keep it, they do.â If anyone should know about secrets, itâs Nyman. Before writing Ghost Stories, he was the man behind many of Derren Brownâs mystery-filled stage shows and early TV performances.
The secretiveness with Ghost Stories, he says, was born out of frustration that these days âEverything is spoiled for you. Every single film and television trailer ruins plot points. Jeremy and I love the experience of telling people a really good story without them knowing anything about it in advance. You feel the buzz in the audience; itâs an exciting thing to sit and watch.â
So what can we say about Ghost Stories? Well, Andy explains: âGhost Stories is a 90-minute scary, thrill-ride experience about a professor of parapsychology who investigates three cases. Thatâs as much as you get and thatâs more than we ever used to give.â
If you push him a little harder, heâll tell you itâs: âA rattling hour and a half that will make you roar with laughter, leap out of your seats and talk about it for a very long time.â And thatâs really all you need to know about the specifics of the show; it will make you scream like a banshee and giggle like a schoolchild, probably at the same time.
Nyman and co-writer Jeremy Dyson, best known for his work with The League of Gentlemen, have a long history that reaches back far beyond the start of their Ghost Stories journey, but begins with horror and a shared love of the genre that saw them forge a teenage friendship.
âIt probably started, for me, with Scooby Doo,â says Dyson of his infatuation with creepy tales. âThere were a lot of scary things for kids around in the 70s, and lots I was enchanted by. Doctor Who would have been a part of that, which in the 70s had a real horror edge to it. So the groundwork was done by the time I was seven or eight years old. People used to buy me collections of ghost stories for my birthdays. They were supposed to be for kids, but they were the most terrifying tales.â
Throw in horror double bills on BBC2, screened at a time when there were only a trio of channels available so âwhoever was doing the programming just picked the best stuff,â and public safety films that were as terrifying as any big screen offering, and you have a culture that bred a shared sensibility, certainly between Nyman and Dyson, if not a much wider generation of horror fans.
âItâs a very English genre,â says Dyson. âCertainly when it comes to the supernatural side of things. The English sensibility defined a lot of that. Itâs a very English tradition, and thereâs no question thatâs part of what weâre celebrating in Ghost Stories.â
Yet despite the best British traditions of both horror and theatre, stage horror is not a genre you see very often, even with the fact that a theatre gives you the ability to control the entire 360 degrees of an audienceâs experience. The Woman in Black may be a permanent fixture in the West End, but try and name another such show. After Ghost Storiesâ emergence at the Lyric Hammersmith 10 years ago, and its immediate success, this has slowly begun to change.
âI think itâs hard to do well,â says Dyson. âYou have to have a love both for theatre and for horror. Itâs a bit like comedy. People talk about comedy writers having funny bones. I think you need scary bones to write horror.â
âI think snobbery plays a real part in it too,â Nyman adds. âWhen I was growing up, weâd come to the West End and there was always a good old thriller on, be it Corpse!, Deathtrap or Sleuth. Those stage thrillers have completely gone out of fashion. There is a section of the audience that is completely ignored by plays; a thriller audience that would never dream of going to a play because itâs seen as âclever stuff for clever peopleâ. Thatâs not to say we think weâve created this brilliant play for that audience, weâve just written the play that we wanted to see.
After numerous successful runs across London, Ghost Stories is taking its jump-inducing, goosebumps-raising show around the UK for the first time, and Nyman and Dyson could not be happier. âWe cannot wait to take it around the country and let people see it and experience it in their home towns,â says Nyman. While audiences outside London have had to wait since 2010 for Ghost Stories to take to the road, they are getting the fully polished, expertly tweaked, 20% scarier version that Nyman and Dyson have been refining for a decade. The majority of the spooky psychological blood-curdler was actually put together in the space of one-week. It was one of those projects where everything clicked. Since then, Nyman and Dysonâs work has been about small changes to give audiences the biggest thrills, laughs, scares and hold-your-breath moments of delicious tension possible.
Nyman and Dyson really do care whether audiences leap out of their seats with a heady mix of fear, excitement and joy, and not just because they want them to keep those all-important secrets. âIf people are paying their hard-earned money to see a show youâre putting on, you have a massive responsibility to give them more than they pay for,â says Nyman. âItâs not fair to think âthatâs good enough, it will be fineâ, you have to over-deliver. Youâve got to lose sleep over it. When the show is up and working and you keep tweaking it to get it right, and you see people going away happy, you know the main reason youâve got to that place is youâve felt a responsibility and youâve worked hard at it.â
With that attitude, if anyone deserves to replicate The Mousetrapâs success, itâs them.
Ghost Stories is at The Lowry, Salford Quays from 18-22 February 2020. Read our review.